Comments on: Reader Case Study: Grandparents In Michigan Contemplate Moving https://frugalwoods.com/2019/08/07/reader-case-study-grandparents-in-michigan-contemplate-moving/ Financial independence and simple living Wed, 19 Feb 2020 00:57:02 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.3.6 By: Kevin https://frugalwoods.com/2019/08/07/reader-case-study-grandparents-in-michigan-contemplate-moving/#comment-264705 Thu, 05 Sep 2019 12:00:43 +0000 http://frugalwoods.com/?p=23074#comment-264705 In reply to Dan.

One thing that I would recomend checking out is whether the HOA covers pest control inside the units. (many just do common areas). This is important, not because of saving expenses for you, but prevents your neighbors from developing a pest problem that bleeds over into your unit but that you can’t do anything about.

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By: Meredith https://frugalwoods.com/2019/08/07/reader-case-study-grandparents-in-michigan-contemplate-moving/#comment-264474 Tue, 03 Sep 2019 20:14:36 +0000 http://frugalwoods.com/?p=23074#comment-264474 It might be hit or miss, but another option when down south might be something like house sitting or house sharing. I don’t have personal experience, but I’ve heard of folks who have good luck with some online house sitting platforms (e.g. living rent free for 6 months in new Zealand).

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By: Debbie https://frugalwoods.com/2019/08/07/reader-case-study-grandparents-in-michigan-contemplate-moving/#comment-263663 Mon, 26 Aug 2019 00:23:24 +0000 http://frugalwoods.com/?p=23074#comment-263663 In reply to B.C. Kowalski.

Thank you! So far we are holding tight where we are! Not much out there in homes for sale that is making us want to jump!

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By: B.C. Kowalski https://frugalwoods.com/2019/08/07/reader-case-study-grandparents-in-michigan-contemplate-moving/#comment-262908 Sun, 18 Aug 2019 14:21:40 +0000 http://frugalwoods.com/?p=23074#comment-262908 Thanks for sharing Debbie! As much as it pains me, as the founder of a bicycle-focused FI blog, I would advise against buying a new home right now. The markets are bananas, in the Midwest and elsewhere. The situation you described is happening here in Wisconsin and elsewhere, where bidding wars and lines around the block for open houses are common. The housing market is in a major bubble right now. I’ve been considering rental properties but I’m waiting until the market changes. A duplex I looked at three years ago just went on the market again for $55,000 more ($130k to $185) than it was three years ago! And it already had an accepted offer!

Of course, it works both ways, and you could find your own home in a bidding war, driving up the sale price of your home significantly. But it might make sense to wait until the housing market is in calmer waters. Or, take Mrs. FW’s suggestion of buying a condo. Managing two properties would be a major challenge – maybe extended stays in warmer climates during the winter might make more sense? Anyway, good luck on everything!

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By: JE https://frugalwoods.com/2019/08/07/reader-case-study-grandparents-in-michigan-contemplate-moving/#comment-262422 Fri, 16 Aug 2019 03:54:00 +0000 http://frugalwoods.com/?p=23074#comment-262422 In reply to Lacey.

Lacey,
I love your attitude! You sound like you are up for anything and any type of living arrangement. You go, girl!

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By: Debbie https://frugalwoods.com/2019/08/07/reader-case-study-grandparents-in-michigan-contemplate-moving/#comment-261995 Tue, 13 Aug 2019 23:28:58 +0000 http://frugalwoods.com/?p=23074#comment-261995 In reply to Melissa.

Melissa, thank you for your suggestions. We’ve had lots of discussions about our future plans.

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By: Melissa https://frugalwoods.com/2019/08/07/reader-case-study-grandparents-in-michigan-contemplate-moving/#comment-261883 Mon, 12 Aug 2019 14:48:05 +0000 http://frugalwoods.com/?p=23074#comment-261883 Hi! I saw Dan and Debbie commenting earlier (I’m a little late to the party), so I hope they get this. One way to move south and still have some flexibility is to choose a community/ area where there is a robust dual season income opportunity. My parents have owned an apartment in Luquillo Puerto Rico for about 10 years. This is the first year they have not rented in the summer (due to Hurricane/ insurance implications). The summer rental market is as hot, if not hotter, than the winter market. So my parents would spend time in the winter there (before they retired they would rent the unit most of the year except for their vacation time), then in the summer their property manager would rent it out using VBRO and providing the service of cleaning, key exchange, etc.

Its not for everybody, but its something to consider. Parts of Florida would likely have this benefit, as would many other areas. And I can’t say enough good things about Luquillo. Its got a robust “continental” community of retirees in the winter as well as lots to do.

Good luck!

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By: Debbie https://frugalwoods.com/2019/08/07/reader-case-study-grandparents-in-michigan-contemplate-moving/#comment-261836 Mon, 12 Aug 2019 00:20:45 +0000 http://frugalwoods.com/?p=23074#comment-261836 In reply to Michele.

It’s funny how everyone is mentioning Florida. I’ve never wanted to land there. I like to Carolina states!

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By: Michele https://frugalwoods.com/2019/08/07/reader-case-study-grandparents-in-michigan-contemplate-moving/#comment-261735 Sat, 10 Aug 2019 13:44:06 +0000 http://frugalwoods.com/?p=23074#comment-261735 In reply to Bill M.

I have lived in Florida my whole life. I agree with most of this. My husband said, “if they want to know what is is like to live in Florida, tell them to take a hot shower, do Not dry off, just put on your clothes and go.” Funny, but not quite accurate, all year. Anyway, I think (near Fort Myers) we have very, very low cost of living. Yes, we have hurricanes, alligators if you are near water, bad drivers (we say because the people who retired here- ha ha), no basements, and flat land. I never plan to move. Travel, yes, but I don’t worry about a rare lizard on the patio (the cats get em for me.) Best of luck. I think Bill should write books, he is very descriptive.

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By: Kate https://frugalwoods.com/2019/08/07/reader-case-study-grandparents-in-michigan-contemplate-moving/#comment-261680 Sat, 10 Aug 2019 00:14:07 +0000 http://frugalwoods.com/?p=23074#comment-261680 In reply to Katie Camel.

Yes to renting! My parents rent a condo near family in South Carolina for 2-3 months in the winter. It’s I think around $600-800 per month for a small 2BR, because it’s off season for the beach community they go to but much warmer than the winters in MA (usually in the 60’s). They are still able to drive down so their costs are really minimal. They road trip on the way, stop at civil war battlefields and other interesting places and stay in budget motels near the highway.

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By: Mrs. Gardener https://frugalwoods.com/2019/08/07/reader-case-study-grandparents-in-michigan-contemplate-moving/#comment-261672 Fri, 09 Aug 2019 21:47:06 +0000 http://frugalwoods.com/?p=23074#comment-261672 In reply to Melissa.

I am also in my 50s like you Melissa, as well as Dan and Deb.

My mother moved into a continuing care community from a single house at age 80. Though Dan and Debbie are nowhere near that age,
the idea in some comments is to prepare for aging in place since they are already considering moving.

In some ways my mother’s move was positive, there are three levels of care and she has been in all three, which has provided continuity during some minor crises. It certainly will make it easier for us when she eventually passes since there is no house to clean out.

However, there were also some negatives. She gained an enormous amount of weight, which I think would have been held in check by having a home and yard to care for which to care. If I remember correctly, the author who wrote about the “blue zones” mentioned Costa Rica and a man who was 80 who climbed a hill every day to visit his mother who was 102! Non-optional physical activity can keep you in shape.

When my mother moved from her apartment in the CCR to assisted living in the same CCR, she moved to a different group of neighbors, had to make new friends, and we had to take her cat. So the idea that you will move to age in place doesn’t take into account different levels of decline, which will come with their own losses and the possible need to move again.

Most people are talking about condos as if there are no sacrifices in terms of lifestyle other than space. But Dan, how will you feel having put in all this work on your house if you live in a place where the upkeep is not up to your expectations? People talk about no upkeep but you won’t have control over the level. How will Deb and you feel about going from seeing horses in your back to hearing your neighbors voices and music through the walls? While it does seem to make sense to move closer to family in the long term, don’t rush a move.

Dan and Deb could really sock a lot more away for retirement in the next 5-10 years if they try and are in good shape and can be in even better.

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By: Debbie https://frugalwoods.com/2019/08/07/reader-case-study-grandparents-in-michigan-contemplate-moving/#comment-261658 Fri, 09 Aug 2019 20:27:38 +0000 http://frugalwoods.com/?p=23074#comment-261658 In reply to Louise.

Louise,
I have heard about the ridiculous premiums out there! I’m sure this is quite a stopper for a lot of people right now who are considering early retirement. Thanks for the heads up!

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