Comments on: Reader Case Study: Experienced Teacher Feeling the Effects of the Covid Classroom https://frugalwoods.com/2021/11/17/reader-case-study-experienced-teacher-feeling-the-effects-of-the-covid-classroom/ Financial independence and simple living Wed, 20 Sep 2023 13:33:07 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.3.6 By: Anonymous https://frugalwoods.com/2021/11/17/reader-case-study-experienced-teacher-feeling-the-effects-of-the-covid-classroom/#comment-458141 Sun, 20 Mar 2022 02:47:43 +0000 https://frugalwoods.com/?p=31808#comment-458141 Erin, do you have an update on what you are planning for next year? I am in Higher education and this year has been extremely difficult. We have three kids and I question whether the stress at work is worth bringing home and impacting my family. Your case study aligns so close to where we are at. We live in the Midwest and prioritize saving for retirement so I can have options regarding work. Has the last few months helped you make a decision?

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By: Kaylin https://frugalwoods.com/2021/11/17/reader-case-study-experienced-teacher-feeling-the-effects-of-the-covid-classroom/#comment-446195 Sat, 22 Jan 2022 00:17:15 +0000 https://frugalwoods.com/?p=31808#comment-446195 Hey Erin! This pandemic really sucks! I am a social worker and my husband is a teacher in NJ. Teaching is a special type of crappy right now. I don’t think you should quit only because you enjoyed your teaching job before the virus hit. There’s only so much longer of pandemic teaching – maybe another year or two? I hope so at least! I wouldn’t think too much about making it another 16 years. Who knows what’ll happen in life?! But I wouldn’t make a major life decision based on something temporary like covid teaching – even if it doesn’t feel temporary! I imagine you are in extreme burn out (I know that I am!) so it’s not always a good idea to make life changing decisions in that state. I would just remind you that you are an asset to your school district and even more so now! I know people like us (in public welfare systems) don’t always think to go this route but I would encourage you to speak with your principle about your preferences for the next school year or two. Since you are in a large school district I wonder if there will be an opportunity to extend the remote teaching to next year too. Teachers are quitting in droves. Your school district needs you more than you need then it sounds like! I am just wondering if there is a way they will work with you for next school. If not, I would see if you could take a sabbatical next school year with the idea of returning in 2023. You can always quit then if you still hate it. Good luck! Therapy is a good idea if only because this is an intensely traumatic experience to live, work and raise a family in! Xoxoxo

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By: Kate https://frugalwoods.com/2021/11/17/reader-case-study-experienced-teacher-feeling-the-effects-of-the-covid-classroom/#comment-445329 Tue, 18 Jan 2022 17:16:44 +0000 https://frugalwoods.com/?p=31808#comment-445329 Hi, I’m Kate and I’ve been teaching for 18 years. I have four young children and I think the teachers with thwirnown young children have struggled so much during the pandemic. Hearing that our children are behind, seeing it at home, and then trying to fix it at work while protecting our loved ones has been exhausting. So many teachers are leaving education. I would suggest starting with two half year sabbaticals. You get paid 3/4 your salary and get to keep your benefits. You would qualify for a health or educational sabbatical. This time off still counts as years of service and you contribute the same amount into your retirement, so your pension would not change. Also, in many states the good retirement benefits kick in around 25 years. Aim for that, not 16 more years. Along the way try to make your work at school as streamlined as possible. You do not need to be teacher of the year. I utilize a lot of self grading programs this year and try to do minimal things at home. When you are at home try to get your little guy to bed early so that you have time to be with your husband and time for yourself. Hugs! You are doing great mama!

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By: Mary Ann https://frugalwoods.com/2021/11/17/reader-case-study-experienced-teacher-feeling-the-effects-of-the-covid-classroom/#comment-444486 Sat, 15 Jan 2022 03:23:11 +0000 https://frugalwoods.com/?p=31808#comment-444486 Chiming in as a 32 year veteran teacher in California. Over the course of my profession I have faced divorce, getting sober, identifying and treating my own mental health issues, getting remarried to have an amazing kid who just went off to college, and this year having a husband just diagnosed with cancer. One of the great constants in my life has been my profession. No matter what, I kept teaching. It was really my first home, having come from chaotic nuclear family. So here are my two cents:

1) You never know what opportunity will present itself. Sometimes the best opportunities come from the worst situations. I was working in a high poverty middle school for several years. We had a new principal every year. A crazy parent drove me to blindly put in an application at a small farm school teaching 6,7,8 self contained. It turned into a blessing where I met my second husband and had a baby at 40. When I wanted to continue teaching but also wanted to raise my son, I was offered a 60-40 position where I got full benefits for three days a week. It was the only position like that in the district. They kept trying to force me to come back full time but I stuck to my guns and became the most wonderful teacher in the world so that they couldn’t afford to loose me. I was part time until baby turned into a freshman in high school. I was able to buy “air time” for the missing service hours rolled over from my 403B. Later, when I faced a disabling mental health issue, a “wild cat” one year position of art specialist for 4th graders came up. That gave me the time and space to address my health. Now I am a high school history teacher on a block schedule where I teach three class with an hour and a half prep. I have a Dr.’s note that allows me to leave in the afternoon to avoid overwhelm. The afternoon is my prep so my students don’t suffer. I just come into school really early to compensate. Point being, you never know what is around the corner, keep all your option opens. Even a 20% position can keep you linked to the district until the next great job opens up.
2). You are your best resource, if you burn out ,students don’t get to benefit from your passion. I take “mental health days” ( I am skiing today) I do NOT answer the phone or leave my phone number for the sub. I do NOT answer parent emails after school hours. I do NOT have parent conferences without a counselor or administrator present. I ONLY work at a school that has an administrator who protects their teacher. Teachers can be their own worse drama junkie. I leave the drama at school and come back refreshed which helps everybody.
3.) Nationally, 1 out of 5 teachers stay until they are fully vested. How come only 1 out of 5 can make it to a dream pension that few other occupations have! This tells a story of a long, often difficult journey. The pension is not a dream however for those who quit midterm. It becomes a horrible investment when compared to individual saving endeavors if you had been working elsewhere. In California, for me and my age, I learned that 61 and a half gives me full medical and nearly 90% of my income. I learned this from independent research and I went to several personal retirement individual meetings. Dave Ramsay ( my husband said) said teachers are the third most likely profession to be millionaires. I was going to quit this year, but I have a new energy now that we are back full time and the district had to give us “one to one computers” and excellent technology. I am loving it. So I am in till 61 and a half.
4) To make the last next three years new and interesting, I have begun online classes, hands on classes, and summer grading labs to get my jewelry appraiser’s certifications. I have found a new energy as I look to my next career as working for auction houses as a vintage jewelry appraiser.

No advice here. This is my experience. Your feelings are real. Life at times is trudging and at times it feels like it is soaring. There have always been options in my life that appeared when I most needed them. My experience is to remember to always tell the truth of what is happening; find outside help: remind myself that I am enough just by waking up in the morning and I don’t have to prove anything beyond that; hang around positive people; and realize that fear 90% of the time is False Evidence Appearing Real.

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By: Sunshine https://frugalwoods.com/2021/11/17/reader-case-study-experienced-teacher-feeling-the-effects-of-the-covid-classroom/#comment-442017 Sun, 02 Jan 2022 05:51:00 +0000 https://frugalwoods.com/?p=31808#comment-442017 Just a suggestion about your defined benefit plan. I work in State government, and I have a plan much like yours. I know we can purchase retirement credit, and I’ve determined that if I leave government to work in industry, I’ll look at buying out my retirement and probably ask my new employer far a signing bonus to cover that. Is that an option that might be available to you?

I’m also the proud autistic mother of an autistic young man who’s now grown and flown. I shared the frustration of feeling like you can’t get any non-family care. It’s so hard when you know the adult is going to be flabbergasted by a kid who’s doing his best, but doesn’t run on the same operating system as his sitter! I wish I had any solutions to give, but please accept my solidarity. You’ll both get through it. I also want to encourage you to keep trade school on the radar as you’re guiding your son to a career in the future. Autism runs in a strong line through our family, and we’ve had electricians since there was such a thing!

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By: L. https://frugalwoods.com/2021/11/17/reader-case-study-experienced-teacher-feeling-the-effects-of-the-covid-classroom/#comment-436970 Thu, 16 Dec 2021 16:50:59 +0000 https://frugalwoods.com/?p=31808#comment-436970 Do the grandparents realize that you don’t see them because they aren’t vaccinated? And that doesn’t convince them? This is a sad situation because we’re going on 2 years of Covid – a huge span in the life of a kid. My immediate family skipped Thanksgiving and Christmas celebrations in 2020, but this year we’re doing both. Although bringing my kids to see their great-grandparents is a risk to the great-grandparents, 2 years is also a huge span in the life of a person who is over 90. If I wait until the Covid risk is “low enough,” my grandparents may well be dead from other causes, or Covid that my children didn’t transmit to them. And I also want to put in the time it takes to build real relationships. I’m raising my children 500 miles from my hometown, and I know that those strong bonds with extended family aren’t going to exist without a lot of effort and time. I would absolutely want my only-child kid to have close and loving relationships with his cousins, aunts, uncles and grandparents, and I think at this point with him now vaccinated, I would give up pushing my hold-out relatives about vaccinating. Have you asked your immunocompromised parent/in-law if they prefer no contact with your child, over the risk of catching an illness from him? Pre-covid, what did you do to make sure your kid didn’t get that person sick? Perhaps you can buy a box of home-testing covid kits and add that person back into your in-person life.

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By: Arielle https://frugalwoods.com/2021/11/17/reader-case-study-experienced-teacher-feeling-the-effects-of-the-covid-classroom/#comment-435285 Thu, 09 Dec 2021 22:15:23 +0000 https://frugalwoods.com/?p=31808#comment-435285 In reply to Jean.

Jean – Your comment comes across as judgmental and contains a lot of assumptions about Erin’s situation. It is not in line with the spirit of positivity and support expected in these case studies. Erin, thank you for being so vulnerable and sharing your story.

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By: Megan https://frugalwoods.com/2021/11/17/reader-case-study-experienced-teacher-feeling-the-effects-of-the-covid-classroom/#comment-433689 Sun, 05 Dec 2021 00:44:09 +0000 https://frugalwoods.com/?p=31808#comment-433689 I’m a PhD who left classroom teaching, and I’ve never looked back. There is HUGE demand for new educational materials in this changing time, and you have two high-value areas of expertise that are in demand: online learning and autism education. I write textbooks, but there are lots of other educational products and services you could sell to share that expertise: teacher training workshops, one-on-one or group tutoring, class activity worksheets, lesson plans, etc.—all of which can be sold and delivered online on your time. Running a business isn’t for everyone, but your extremely marketable specialty gives you that option.

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By: Jen https://frugalwoods.com/2021/11/17/reader-case-study-experienced-teacher-feeling-the-effects-of-the-covid-classroom/#comment-432584 Fri, 03 Dec 2021 03:43:14 +0000 https://frugalwoods.com/?p=31808#comment-432584 Erin – definitely look into KN95, N95, or KF94 options for you and your son. That with the vaccine really decreases risk. A reputable place to order is Project N95 mentioned here https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/08/21/n95-kn95-masks-online-shopping-tips/. Recommend trying out a few types so that you can find one that fits well. For your son, I know it can go either way for special needs kids. Sometimes they like wearing a mask because it tones down the face-to-face interaction, sometimes they can’t. But if it helps your son like wearing a mask better, they also have a strapless N95 option that fits kids. Good luck!

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By: Sugg https://frugalwoods.com/2021/11/17/reader-case-study-experienced-teacher-feeling-the-effects-of-the-covid-classroom/#comment-432462 Thu, 02 Dec 2021 17:10:51 +0000 https://frugalwoods.com/?p=31808#comment-432462 Sounds to me like you can manage your finances and you will be able to work in a variety of positions to support yourself. The biggest question in your life is the future of your son, and what decisions you need to make (childcare, health, finances) to set him up for a happy future.

What you need is a COMMUNITY of people to hold your hand and show you what the future of a special needs family can look like. That will help you to know that You don’t have to white knuckle your days. Look for autism support and special needs support. Seek out mentors who are ahead of you on the journey. You are not alone, Best of luck.

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By: Jessie https://frugalwoods.com/2021/11/17/reader-case-study-experienced-teacher-feeling-the-effects-of-the-covid-classroom/#comment-431832 Wed, 01 Dec 2021 02:49:17 +0000 https://frugalwoods.com/?p=31808#comment-431832 Hi,

I love your story, thanks for sharing, and I respect your concerns about working in person in an educational setting. I am also facing this decision as my school is asking us to prepare to come back this summer 2022.

I have diagnosed anxiety and I think many people contribute my apprehension at working in person stems from my anxiety. I’m not sure if that is completely the case. More importantly, I’m not sure if that matters. Ultimately, it’s our decision (and our privilege!) to choose what’s best for us and our families. Reading your story helped me clarify what I would want — goodbye pension, I take the time and the peace over money every day. I can’t stop working of course, but I will look for another job that allows me to work online.

I wish you and your family the best!

Take care, jessie

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By: priskill https://frugalwoods.com/2021/11/17/reader-case-study-experienced-teacher-feeling-the-effects-of-the-covid-classroom/#comment-431550 Tue, 30 Nov 2021 02:08:40 +0000 https://frugalwoods.com/?p=31808#comment-431550 I hear you on the COVID thing — teaching my unmasked little special ed guys in person was challenging But — we made it! No one has been ill and the few cases that have come through the school have not affected us. You sound like an awesome and dedicated teacher — truly!! It is what you love, so I do hope you can figure out a way to manage the understandable stress and worry that can go along with this. I had a physical checkup before I started back in person in October 2020 and it really eased my mind. I don’t know if you have underlying health issues — if so, a serious chat with your physician can help you make an informed decision (as opposed to a fearful one — and, believe me, I DO understand that fear!)

Some other suggestions — online tutoring and teaching? With your excellent experience and degrees, perhaps the college level would be less stressful ? Whatever you decide I wish you well and hope you are still doing the things you love in whatever capacity. Good luck !

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